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Reply #18 - Feb 16th, 2016 at 7:13am
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*speechless* *kudos*

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Reply #17 - Feb 15th, 2016 at 10:32pm
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sheepcore wrote on Nov 8th, 2015 at 9:20pm:
On the feature request I do not want to sort a folder permanently but want to sort the current view when searching to allow me narrowing down.
This feature request has been implemented in BookMacster, Markster and Synkmark version 2.1.1.  This 52-second video shows how it works.  Current users can get it by launching their app and clicking Check for Update in the application menu.
  

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Reply #16 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 2:28pm
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Oh … we finished it last night.  Sorry, forgot to post here!

BookMacster and Synkmark 2.0.6 are now available on the beta channel.  Has two Inspector issues fixed.  I hope that one of them is the issue you reported!
  

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Reply #15 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 12:11pm
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Thanks for the workaround, that'll do while waiting *thumbup*
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 4:26pm
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Thank you for your patience, sheepcore.  The way I've found to reproduce the problem is to launch BookMacster in the background, then Show BookMacster, which should show .bkmslf document and Inspector, then Background BookMacster.  It is the backgrounding which causes the Inspector's Lineage field (the thing that shows No Selection and also its Tags field to become unbound from the bookmark data model, so that the Lineage field indicates, usually, No Selection, although it can also remain stuck showing the lineage of the last bookmark whcih it was bound to before the backgrounding.

So, as a workaround, don't use the Background BookMacster menu item in the menulet.  If you really need to, relaunch BookMacster when you're done.  I hope this issue is the same issue that you found.  We've now finished the fix but have not published yet.
  

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Reply #13 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:47pm
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Thanks for the heads up, Jerry.

Have 21 tons of tabs and links waiting to be bookmarked properly Smiley
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:35pm
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Sorry, this issue got pushed aside in favor of the new Chrome extension thing.

Last night, I was able to reproduce, understand and put together a proof-of-concept that fixes it.  The issue was due to a small bug in Apple's token field (the thing that displays the tags in the blue bubbles), which we had worked around using a messy kludge several years ago, which stopped working, I think, in El Capitan, not BookMacster 2.x.

We should have version 2.0.6, with the fix, out in the next couple days.
  

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Reply #11 - Nov 15th, 2015 at 11:30am
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Thanks again, appreciate the efforts. Will wait in the end user line end of the treadmill Wink
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2015 at 11:52pm
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sheepcore wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
Would prefer - and think this a much more user friendly option - a clearly documented preference over the software "trying" anything.

That said, the inspector closes automatically for me after adding the bookmark, when I change back to the browser. Would the feature work as intended to I'd expect the inspector not to show up again when quitting and opening Bookmacster.
Yes, I see what you mean.

While I was trying to reproduce the No Selection thing, I found that as you said the Inspector was not always appearing.  Different but related problem.

So, the good news that I've decided to rip out that whole try and do what you want mechanism.  It might get replaced with a manual preference, as you prefer.

The bad news is that this is going to take some time, because I'm also in the midst of clearing warnings which popped up when we changed our apps' Deployment Target from OS X 10.8 to OS X 10.10.   Developers call it the Apple treadmill.  It's a time sink, but it pays off in the long run.  There were 95 warnings a week ago and we've now got it down to 33.

sheepcore wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
Was referring to your post where you mentioned "... This bug bears a definite resemblance to the behavior you've described.  Maybe while I'm fixing it I'll discover more. ...".
Did you revert that fix?
No.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2015 at 5:47pm
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Thanks Jerry,

Would prefer - and think this a much more user friendly option - a clearly documented preference over the software "trying" anything.

That said, the inspector closes automatically for me after adding the bookmark, when I change back to the browser. Would the feature work as intended to I'd expect the inspector not to show up again when quitting and opening Bookmacster.

Was referring to your post where you mentioned "... This bug bears a definite resemblance to the behavior you've described.  Maybe while I'm fixing it I'll discover more. ...".
Did you revert that fix?
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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2015 at 5:31pm
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sheepcore wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
just gave it a extensive retry ... keeps me w/ "No Selection" ...:
Thank you very much, because I tried it a few more times, then gave up and moved on to other issues.

sheepcore wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Can you hide the Inspector by default?
Yes.  The idea is that BookMacster tries to remember what you like.  If the Inspector is open when you quit BookMacster, then, during the next launch, BookMacster re-opens the Inspector when the first document is opened.  If the Inspector is closed when you quit BookMacster, then, during the next launch, BookMacster does not re-open it when the first document is opened, which you may have, even though you can't see it because you've done a Launch in Background  Try to remember to close the Inspector before quitting.  I just tested this and it works, even if you are using Launch in Background.

OK, trying the rest of your procedure, I am able to reproduce problems.  Not exactly as you said, but I have enough to bite into into now.  I'll be back after I've found something.

sheepcore wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
  … BookMacster Menu/File/Open Recent is empty?! …
I have not seen that, but will keep on the lookout for it.

sheepcore wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
You mentioned having applied some changes to the "lineage" field.
Is that version out for a try?
I don't see that in my previous posts, but it doesn't matter because the answer is "no".

sheepcore wrote on Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:48pm:
Am having lots of tabs waiting to be bookmarked…
Is that another feature request for Bookmark all tabs?
  

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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2015 at 2:48pm
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Hi Jerry,

just gave it a extensive retry ... keeps me w/ "No Selection" ...:

start BookMacster

Despite being started in background the inspector shows up.
> Can you hide the Inspector by default?

OS X Menu Bar/BookMacster/Show BookMacster
… .bkmslf doc is open …
BookMacster Menu/File/Close

BookMacster Menu/Quit



start BookMacster
… .bkmslf doc is open …

> … BookMacster Menu/File/Open Recent is empty?! …

OS X Menu Bar/BookMacster/Show BookMacster
BookMacster Menu/Background BookMacster



start Chrome
open a URL
click BookMacster Icon
… Inspector opens …
„No Selection“



select Chrome again
… Inspector hides …
click BookMacster Icon again for the same tab and URL
… Duplicates warning shows up …
click Merge
„No Selection“



OS X Menu Bar/BookMacster/Show BookMacster
BookMacster Menu/File/Close
BookMacster Menu/File/Open .bkmslf
select Chrome again
click BookMacster Icon again for the same tab and URL
… Duplicates warning shows up …
click Merge
„No Selection“


I can repeat the above over and over but it keeps me with "No Selection".  Cry

You mentioned having applied some changes to the "lineage" field.
Is that version out for a try?

Am having lots of tabs waiting to be bookmarked ... Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 2:29pm
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Indeed, that No Selection is what I saw Sunday night.  It means that the field did not get "bound" to the selection (the new bookmarks).  I just wasn't able to make it happen yesterday.  We'll both keep trying.
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 9:03am
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Sounds good on the progress since 2009 ... Wink

On the reported issue and trying to repro your results I now have an inspector that does not allow at all to move any new bookmark but keeps me with "No Selection" instead, see attached screenshot.

Will add the repro steps later on.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:27pm
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Bad news, sheepcore.  Although I did not fix anything, I can no longer reproduce the problem I saw last night.  I have been trying for 25 minutes, launching and quitting BookMacster, opening and closing documents, and landing bookmarks from Chrome, and every time, the Inspector and the lineage view have worked perfectly.  Please relaunch BookMacster and make a note of each step you do to reproduce the problem.  Something like this:

• Launch BookMacster
• Some .bkmslf document opens/not automatically
• Inspector window opens/not automatically
• Activate Chrome.
• Visit a website.
• Click the BookMacster button in Chrome with/out holding down option key.
• Result: …
  

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