Certainly enjoying beta v1.1.18. Thanks for all your hard work!

tom_p wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2010 at 11:26pm:
Although these things are difficult to predict, my estimate is: before the end of the month.� (I learned that from Apple.)� Syncing across multiple Macs is already in there; now we just have to (1) get everything else working again and (2) because the data storage format is different, build in the "store migration" code which will automatically update the Bookmarkshelf documents of existing users.  Because it can't really be started until everything else is complete, the time to complete item (2) is the prime contributor to the uncertainty of ETA.

thankful wrote on Jul 21^st, 2010 at 7:04pm:
Well, actually, for various reasons, after much wrangling, a few days ago, we decided against this change.� BookMacster will continue to be document-based, and support multiple documents, or as we call them, Bookmarkshelves.�

We did seriously consider Leo's suggestion of forking BookMacster into two apps, but decided against that too, because in my opinion, it just moves the problem � new users landing at our site would need to read about the two apps (actually, three including Bookdog) and then try to predict what they want before they've experienced it.  And then there's all the extra logistics of another app.

Instead, we are implementing other ways of presenting a simple setup to new users, while gradually revealing the complexity to those who need it.  We believe you'll enjoy it.  Thanks to all for the feedback on this.

Also just dabbling with BookMacster myself. But so far, having separate bookshelves means I can save different configurations and workflows without the risk of losing everything, as is easily done with a new and unfamiliar program. So that would be a yes vote for separate bookshelves. A year down the road will I still need it? Hard to say...

My tuppence worth, from a complete novice...

Jerry Krinock wrote on Jul 16^th, 2010 at 11:30am:

I hate to be a buzzkill, but I use the separate shelves per browser model. I'm one of those odd birds who uses different browsers for different things.

It's much more important to me to have these docs in a Dropbox and be able to have the same sets of Bookmarks per Browser between a couple machines machines, and to have these (separate) shelves sync, without Agent (so that I can cull Bookmarks 'manually').

Sometimes I do want to open certain Bookmarks in another browser, but I have existing tools for that:

* Highbrow - sets the default browser to the last session opened.

* AllBookmarks - From the 1Password folks, free, allows me to search all my local bookmarks and then open them in the last browser as above.

As you can see, I'm more browser centric than bookmark centric.

I like BookMacster the way it is: Flexible: if you're willing to read the documentation, you can shape it into a tool that suits your workflow, like;

1/ One file all browsers

2/ One file PER browser (the model I use)

Repeat the above with Agents or not.

How hard is that to understand?

Okay, MAYBE things need to be simplified, but maybe this is a UI / Documentation issue. I'm not a big fan of oversimplification or turning Apps into iTunes. The user is ONLY going to be 'guided' for a very short time, and then run into limitations that will force them to look for another product.

That is what brought me to BookDog, and later BookMacster in the first place.

To me, changing major App functionality will change the App. It's not a 1.1 thing, but maybe a 2.0 thing or another App altogether.

Just my 2 yen. Keep the change...

-Leo

BookMacster currently supports multiple Bookmarkshelf documents.� This design choice was made in order to provide a seamless replacement for Bookdog users who might want to continue managing bookmarks from different browser/clients (Safari, Firefox, Chrome etc.) separately.� (In the documentation this is called Usage Style 1.)� However in recalling hundreds of support cases, both in our private support correspondence and on this Forum, we've not seen anyone use separate, multiple Bookmarkshelf documents (although a few have mis-used them).� 100% of users seem to have their bookmarks combined into a single Bookmarkshelf.

Oh, well!� Of course, we're now considering eliminating support for multiple Bookmarkshelf documents, because it will make BookMacster simpler.� BookMacster would be like iTunes or iPhoto.� You'd have a single "bookmarks library".� You would define a single set of Clients, and a single set of Agents.� Bookmarks will still be stored in a file which you could locate in any location � including your Dropbox folder, your iDisk, or the current default location which is ~/Library/Application Support/BookMacster.� But only one such file will be supported.� The File menu would no longer have a New Bookmarkshelf or Save As menu item, although we'll probably keep Save, Close and Save As Move, and the Bookmarkshelf Document will remain, at least initially, but it will be "under the hood".

For current users, the first Bookmarkshelf which you'd open after updating to BookMacster 1.1 would be automatically converted into your "bookmarks library".

We'd like a reply here from anyone that we've missed, who has a use for multiple Bookmarkshelf documents.� Soon (before it's too late)�

Thank you!