Hey Jerry!

I totally agree with you that it shouldn't broke the system, but who knows.

What I did basically was:

1. I quit Safari
2. Disconnect Safari on macOS and iOS devices from iCloud. (just for safari)
3. I deleted the Bookmarks.plist on macOS.
4. Lauch safari again and delete de bookmarks
5. Import the old bookmarks and I keep macOS this way, so it's isolated.

6. On iOS devices delete all the bookmarks and reading list (which are also bookmarks)
7. Connect them again to iCloud.
8. Add a bookmark and a reading list item on my iPhone.

After that nothing happen at all and for awhile there was a message saying that bookmarks were syncing if I try to edit the bookmarks.

Things were like that for a couple of days and at some point, the old bookmarks reappear on my iPad. 

I waited a day or so just to check if they will appear on my iPhone… but no.

At some point I disconnected again my Safari on my iPhone from iCloud and connected it again… Which brought all the old bookmarks back 

A little bit after I delete some reading list items on my iPad and they started to being synced on my iPhone till I delete too much items manually and they stopped. I deleted all the reading list items on my iPad, but they didn't sync —yet— to my iPhone and I think that they are not going to sync at all and I think it's already 48h since I deleted the reading list items.

Tell me if you have a similar behavior there or what is going on here…

But pretty must this means that you CAN'T flush / delete your bookmarks from iCloud.

Hey Jerry!

Thanks for this.

I think that the synchronization is broken, or at least is broken in my case. I'm thinking that perhaps the problem in my case is related to the advance data protection in ventura and iOS 16.

I've isolated my mac from the iCloud bookarks and see the bookmarks sync between my iPad and my iPhone. They sync, but to an extend. I mean if I delete too many bookmark or elements the reading list at once, the synchronization stops to never return… at least for now.

I'm thinking that perhaps is related to the advance data protection because apple now keeps a copy of your deleted bookmarks the perhaps that is stoping the sync when too many bookmarks are deleted modified?

Any experience with that?

Hey!

As I thought and after 24h changes haven't come around.

I can give it another try today… and do another reset, but I don't know.

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Well, that happens even when things are working properly.  One pattern I've seen more than once is something like this: Working in Safari on my Mac, add a new bookmark, it syncs to my iPad in less than 1 minute.  Immediately add a second bookmark, again less than 1 minute.  Immediately add a third bookmark, it takes 5 hours to sync 

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Don't delete the whole Sync branch.  Only delete the Changes

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What are you using for a plist editor?

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I think you mean that they might be throttling us, as in my first paragraph … they don't want you to make too many changes too fast and if you do they have an algorithm which makes you wait?  I have wondered that myself over the last few years.  I don't know.  It's possible.

Hi Jerry, after following the instructions in your post above, syncing is back to normal on my iPad. Thanks a lot for the excellent support, and for providing a fix in the latest version of BookMacster. It was much appreciated.

I have a problem that when recreated my bookmarks by importing into Syncmaster (after they had got messed up) they were not correct on my iPhone and iPad but were correct on my iMac.

After a while this "not correct" structure was "pushed" onto the iMac by iCloud...

We just published version 3.0.11 of BookMacster, Synkmark and Smarky on the beta channel which fixes an omission in the iCloud Changes that was in some cases causing changes to not be pushed to iCloud.  To those of you having this issue, please update to version 3.0.11.

To get the new version, launch BookMacster, Synkmark or Smarky and click in the main menu > App name > Check for Update.

After updating,

• Activate Safari and delete all bookmarks and folders.
• Do the same thing in Safari on other devices synced to that iCloud account.
• If you have and know how to use a .plist editor, open Safari's Bookmarks.plist file with your .plist editor and remove the branch Root > Sync > Changes.  Otherwise, skip this step.  We're not sure if it is necessary.  We are working on a next version of our apps which will include a utility built in to do this for you.
• Activate BookMacster, Synkmark or Smarky and export to Safari.

Based on our testing during the last week, it may take up to 24 hours for the changes to appear on the other devices.

Thanks for the updates Jerry, and I hope your further testing yields some positive results.

I'm just in the process of temporarily switching back to Firefox while this issue persists with Vivaldi, and have also discovered that iCloud locks up if you do too many wipes and resyncs in one day